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Can we talk to the dead?

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Is it possible for us to communicate with or get messages from the spirits of the dead and to verify such information?

The answer is a loud yes, according to spiritists, mediums and psychics. Some psychic researchers have even asserted that there is actually no gap between the living and the dead. The dead are still with us, but in spirit form. Only the physical body dies—not their spirit and consciousness.

Despite numerous empirical evidence of survival after death, mainstream scientists are still reluctant to accept such an idea. They believe that death ends everything, and nothing survives after that.

Although all Christians believe that man’s spirit survives after death, they refuse to believe that the dead can come back to communicate with the living. They argue that it is the devil that people are contacting, and not really the spirits of their dead relatives.

It may therefore surprise these Christian followers that even the Bible gives proof that it is possible to talk to the dead. This is written in Book I of Samuel in the Old Testament (28:1-28), where King Saul asked a medium in Endor to summon the spirit of the prophet Samuel and succeeded in doing so.

Not only did the woman of Endor get Samuel’s reply to the king’s question, but even described how Samuel looked and how he was dressed. These facts convinced King Saul that it was indeed the prophet Samuel who appeared to the woman and gave a prophetic message to King Saul which all came to pass.

Is it possible then to learn how to contact the spirit of the dead? And is it safe to do so?

The answer is yes, and in fact, we have invited a well-known American medium and teacher, Stephen Hermann, to come to the Philippines in mid-November to conduct a two-day seminar on mediumship and spirit communication for interested individuals.

Demonstrations

Rev. Hermann has impressive credentials. He has given demonstrations of his mediumship skill on TV and radio worldwide, which have been documented by the Associated Press. A former research medium for the University of Virginia, Rev. Hermann’s mediumship is the subject of a book published in Macedonia.

He is able to provide firsthand proof that life after death exists by giving specific messages containing names, dates and places known only to the individuals concerned.

According to Rev. Hermann, “As a medium, I am able to mentally see, hear and sense persons in the spirit dimension and convey messages from them to people in the physical world. Although I use my psychic ability to receive communications from the spirit world, I am not a psychic reader or a fortune teller. My sessions are purely mediumistic, with focus on spiritual guidance and evidential messages from recognizable personalities in the spirit world.”

He confessed that he cannot call up particular spirits, but is able to describe the spirit who is with the individual audience at the time.

I know for a fact that it is possible to communicate with and receive messages from the spirit world, because I have experienced this several times in the past. Such messages were confirmed by recipients to be true and meaningful to them.

In the Philippines, there are many spiritist centers, especially in Tarlac, Pangasinan and the Ilocos region. And they teach members how to contact the spirit world after long study on how to become a medium.

Rev. Hermann will teach the fundamentals of mediumship and spirit communication on Nov. 16 and 17, 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., at Prince Plaza I, Penthouse Function Room, Legaspi St., Legaspi Village, Makati City.

Although the two-day seminar has a fee, Rev. Hermann will give a free demonstration of his mediumship skills on Nov. 15, 6 to 8:30 p.m., at the same venue. Interested individuals may call 8107245 or 0908-3537885 for more details.

My next seminar on Basic ESP and Intuition Development is on Oct. 19 to 20, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. The “Everything about Ghosts” seminar is on Oct. 26, 9 a.m. to 12 noon, at Rm. 308 Prince Plaza I, 106 Legaspi St., Greenbelt, Makati City. For past life regression, personal consultancy and other paranormal services, call 8107245 or 0908-3537885.

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  • TruthHurts

    “The dead are still with us, but in spirit form.”

    They’re very handy when you need information. They’re all around us. Just use the right method or you would attract not-so friendly types. This is also the biggest problem of humanity…to eventually know that there’s no really such thing as “death”. It’s disturbing for most. And to further know that eventually even the soul itself will be shed for something beyond human comprehension.

    • jpeter262

      But for him who is joined to all the living there is hope, for a living dog is better than a dead lion. For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. (Eccl 9:4-5)

      • TruthHurts

        “But the dead know nothing,”

        That must be allegorical. Based on personal experience, they know a lot, especially the ancient souls. They’re trapped in this planet because they cannot vibrate faster than the electromagnetic field of this earth.

        I think one of the purposes of existence is to actually break loose from this dimension, just as all existing religions would tell us. I can’t be certain about that however as I am also trying to know the answers to that. If I already knew, then you can be certain I wouldn’t be here by now, but I just feel this planet is not the final destination.

        Considering its history and where it is now, I doubt that it is. Being human, made of matter, is very limiting. Although some religions would argue with me about its special role in the entire cosmic fabric. That will have to be answered by the future if Earth indeed (and its sentient children) deserves all the attention of all other planets and star systems.

      • jpeter262

        We heard lots about ancient soul being reborn and people talked with the dead.

        Based on what the Book said the dead know nothing (Eccl 9:4-5). Jesus Christ is the first to rise from the dead (Acts 26:22-23). None of the prophets and/or great man of God was risen before Him.

        During His 3 1/2 years ministry, Jesus Christ preached the
        Gospel of the Kingdom of God (Mark 1:14-15). For that purpose He was sent by the Father (Luke 4:43).

        After being risen from the dead Jesus Christ was seen for forty days and speaking of the things pertaining to the Kingdom of God (Act 1:1-3).

        Jesus Christ will soon come back to establish the Kingdom
        of God as King of kings and Lord of lords (1 Tim 6:15, Rev 17:14 & 19:16).

        The Saints, who keep the commandment of God (Rev 14:12) will rule with Jesus Christ for a thousand years.

        – – – And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. (Rev 20:4-6)

      • TruthHurts

        Jesus Christ is the first to rise from the dead (Acts 26:22-23).

        From the same book we will see that Lazarus “rose from the dead” earlier than Jesus. What about Elijah and Moses appearing with him (in the gospels)?

        As I understand the term “resurrection” it refers to the re-animation of The Mind and its memories (both of which are parts of the soul). Hence, a spiritual resurrection is enough simply to fulfill that. But early Christians understand life after physical death as the ability of the soul or spirit (those two are different) to possess both the Christ and the Holy Spirit (the holiest and purest male and female energies that are said to be coming from what is ordinarily called as “The Father”). If the soul does not possess those or is incapable of evincing that out of its own spirit, it cannot enter the realm or dimension which requires those vibrations.

      • jpeter262

        Jesus Christ was the first one to rise from the dead and goes to heaven and sit at the right hand of God the Father. No one else does before or after Him ever recorded.

        – – that the Christ would suffer, that He would be the first to rise from the dead, and would proclaim light to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.” (Acts 26:23)

        – – So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was
        received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. (Mark 16:19)

        Yes Lazarus come alive after a miracle and died again and
        know nothing up to now. He could possibly rise again and be in the Kingdom of Heaven/God when Jesus Christ comeback in His Millennial Rule.

        – – For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. (Eccl 9:5)

        “”What about Elijah and Moses appearing with him
        (in the gospels)?””

        Matt 17:1-13; Mark 9:1-13 and Luke 9:27-36 have similarity
        in their own presentation of the event complimenting each other. If we try to go deeper in Matt 17:9, Jesus Christ was talking about the vision of the coming event presented to Peter, James and John. And we can see the word used was transfigured and/or altered. That is how we will see Jesus Christ when He comes back, like a sun shining in full strength (Rev 1:16).

        – – Now as they came down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man is risen from the dead.” (Matt 17:9)

        – – and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like
        the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. (Matt 17:2)

        – – As He prayed, the appearance of His face was altered,
        and His robe became white and glistening. (Luke 9:29)

        – – He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth
        went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength (Rev 1:16)

        Most Christian observing the Feast of Tabernacle knew that
        the Feast represent the soon coming one thousand year Rule of Jesus Christ on earth.

        Peter the agro Apostles was talking on those verses about
        the tabernacles for the three. He is familiar with the Feast of Tabernacle as practiced by Jesus Christ, the Apostles and the early Christians. The 3 have very important roles in the coming Millennial Rule of Christ.

        There is spirit of man and spirit of God

        – – For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit
        of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. (1 Cor 2:11)

        There is no immortal Soul

        – – The soul who sins shall die (Ezek 18:4)

      • TruthHurts

        “Jesus Christ was the first one to rise from the dead and goes to heaven and sit at the right hand of God the Father.”

        As I understand it, death here refers to the soul’s inability to become one/meld with God, which other religions call as something else. That does not however mean that the soul loses its memories or is unable to be reborn again in another form or body or be in any other place/dimension.

        What Jesus was saying is that no one ascended into the place in heaven that is in the direct presence of God (the “Holy of Holies” or what other term). Jesus was the very first man to do this in his spiritual ascension (some religions even claim that a greater part of his spirit has always been there since he is as big as several universes and only a small part of him became conscious as human). As I understand it, part of his salvation philosophy was to live life as a human being and tell other humans that it was possible to ascend into heaven as a human being by his example.

        Among the Abrahimic religions: Islam, Judaism and Christianity, it is understood that there are many “heavens.” Even from a Buddhist and Vedantic perspective, that is the philosophy. One membrane or dimension inside another, inside another…like layers of the earth or the egg yolk.

        From the books we will find that there is a “spirit world” that includes: God (Eph 1:20), Good angels: (Eph 3:10), Devil and demons (Eph 6:12), Departed spirits of men (Eph 2:6).

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        “Yes Lazarus come alive after a miracle and died again and
        know nothing up to now.”

        Not so! The same book says in Luke 16:19-31

        “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side…”

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        “For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. (Eccl 9:5)”

        That translation is misleading. Does that also mean that life itself is meaningless since when we die there is no reward of any sort?

        Deuteronomy 18:11 tells us that anyone who “consults with the dead” is “detestable to the Lord.” The story of Saul consulting a medium to bring up the spirit of the dead Samuel resulted in his death “because he was unfaithful to the LORD; he did not keep the word of the LORD and even consulted a medium for guidance” (1 Samuel 28:1-25; 1 Chronicles 10:13-14).

        Why then would he be punished for such transgression or there be an explicit prohibition for the same if that is not possible, using the same standards of the Talmud over the matter?

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        Was that just an illusion of some sort concerning Jesus transfiguration or was he showing Elijah and Moses to his disciples as they are, wherever they may be?

        Please do not take the verse out of context:

        “After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.”

        THEY BOTH APPEARED BESIDE HIM. That must be as clear as it could possibly get. It was a vision or something out of a trance, because spiritual entities are normally invisible within the physical range of frequencies. Like I said, you have to achieve a certain frequency before you perceive non-physical entities.

        (That method of divination or spectral-communication can be seen from all cultures, past and present.)

        Elijah was taken to heaven in 2 Kings 2, which I understand is one of the “heavens” as there is not only one but many heavens. My point being is that they continue to exist in some form or consciousness despite leaving the physical dimension and its physical rules.

      • jpeter262

        Assuming your understanding is right. How do you reconcile those with First Resurrection and the coming Millennial Rule of Jesus Christ? Rev 20:1-15

        – – But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.(Rev 20:5-6)

        – – He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the
        Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; (Rev 20:2)

        – – Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be
        released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth,

        – – The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of
        fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. (Rev 20:10)

        – – Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire.
        This is the second death. (Rev 20:14)

      • TruthHurts

        “Over such the second death has no power”

        “Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire.
        This is the second death. (Rev 20:14)”

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        You answered your own question. Even “death” has many kinds, varying in degrees. As to the claims of a physical resurrection (or whatever sort), those are claimed by several faiths/religions. They are either called as reincarnation or being reborn in another dimension.

        All consciousness eventually come from a single source. Hence, it would be fair to say, that ALL is God or is a byproduct of God’s mind, or All is Mind…or better, all is Spirit. That same spirit differentiated into many forms and frequencies and became the cosmos, immanent and prevalent in it. Both part of and beyond it who created microcosms of itself to experience free will from each…but eventually, everything is simply a copy of itself, just like your cells who are all distinct but make up your shell and containing all the information to make another you.

        Death is the degree by which consciousness is separated from its main source. You are correct, even the soul will disintegrate, retaining only the spirit. The spirit within us is eternal for it is the spark that makes up the same eternal force of everything, which you call as God.

      • jpeter262

        It is written in Revelation 20:1-15 — the First Resurrection and the soon coming Millennial Rule of Jesus Christ. Do you believed that these things will happen?

        Need more clarification of your theory in relation with the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants–things which must shortly take place. (Rev 1:1-3)

      • TruthHurts

        I must invoke ignorance in the matter. The Christ is not yet very clear to me. My understanding has not yet progressed to that degree. If I could already answer that, based on Christian belief, it would mean that I have successfully tapped the Christos and its counterpart (Holy Spirit), both of which would confer many spiritual gifts (like the ability to read accurately the progression of space time, otherwise known as prophecy). I cannot answer that. From the same book you will find that even the angels are not allowed to know the time of such events or what it truly means.

        All I understand is, the Christos (or what other name it is called in other religions and philosophies) is already active in this part of the universe and solar system. Like a radar transmission, it is constantly pulsating at a given frequency. It is up for us to tap into it.

      • jpeter262

        I really appreciate your honesty my good friend. Neither I have reached the ideal degree of understanding required on us. We can only speak on what was revealed to us by the Father through Jesus Christ, the Son.

        Yes no one knows the time except the Father. Though if we
        believed the Book, Jesus Christ also told us to watch, pray and be ready.

        – – Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when
        the time is. (Mark 13:33)

        – – Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is
        coming at an hour you do not expect.” (Luke 12:40)

        Jesus Christ is surely coming back as He said,

        – – Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no
        means pass away. (Luke 21: 33)

        Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever (Heb
        13:8). He never tell a lie and He is the only one who has no sin (1 Pet 2:22). Sin is a transgression of the Law. God the Father gave the Law through Jesus Christ and Jesus as a Son of Man fulfilled the Law but never destroyed it (Matt 5:17)

        Jesus Christ revealed in Rev 1:1-15 that He is coming very
        soon as King of kings and Lord of lords. The saints who followed God’s commandment (Rev 14:12) will be with Him as King and Priest. Blessed are those who will be in the First Resurrection.

        The Book also said that the saint will even judge the angels.

        – – Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? (1 Cor 6:3)

        Jesus Christ is God. He was in the beginning with God, the Father. Everything was made through Him (John 1:1-15 & Rev 19:13)

        – – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
        – – And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1:1-15)

        – – He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. (Rev 19:13)

      • TruthHurts

        Thank you. We are both on the same path of pursuing the Truth. We may have chosen different methods as of this date, but I believe we will eventually arrive at the same point. And when we do, we can eventually compare notes.

      • jpeter262

        Admittedly I have not done much deep study of the spirit as
        you did. God only allowed to handle so much on the talent given to me and I am trying to maximized the use of it. My understanding is much based only on the Book inspired by God. God is perfect. Using a perfect yardstick hopefully won’t make me go wrong in understanding the Truth that can make me free.

        – – And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32)

        – – whom I love in truth, and not only I, but also all those who have known the truth, because of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever: Grace, mercy, and peace will be with you from God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. (2 John 1:1-3)

        Thanks.

      • TruthHurts

        “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away. (Luke 21: 33)”

        That is one of the deeper truths. The entire universe of matter will dissolve just as our bodies made of flesh (organic dust) will pass away. That which does not perish is The Truth. And even Time (space time…the oscillation, progression and movement of both matter and energy) will perish, hence, everything that Time has produced will also perish.

        What is Truth? Anything that is beyond Space-Time or does not normally obey it, that is the ultimate Truth. That is what we could call as the absolute. Everything else is relative to Time and its fabrics and dimensions.

        If you find Jesus words (both the written ones and those spoken-of by his apostles and possible witnesses) as fulfilling that criteria, then stick with it. Some of the books diverged from Jesus words, even in the New Testament itself.

        Grace, mercy and peace be with you as well.

        ***************

        “Admittedly I have not done much deep study on the spirit as you did. ”

        Then begin from it. For it is more important than even our souls and bodies (both of which are full of error). The Spirit is the only thing inside every human being which is uncreated and is directly linked to the highest energy from where it truly came from. It is The One that makes prayers work of whatever creed or religion you may belong to. It is the only thing that is holy and true in us. Even our souls are of a much lesser state. The spirit is also what we often refer to as the conscience or the super-ego. It is what feeds you with the true concept of love, compassion, bliss, finer discernment…the abstract and the sublime.

        Jesus was once asked when the kingdom of God would come. The kingdom of God, Jesus replied, is not something people will be able to see and point to. Then came these striking words: “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21)

        Look into every great religious, spiritual, and wisdom tradition, and we find the same precept — that life’s ultimate truth, its ultimate treasure, lies within us. The way then, is not outside…but inside.

        In the beginning of Christianity, the first Christian theologians, Saint Augustine amongst others, always referred to the body, soul and Spirit of man. But, as the years passed, this began to disappear. The Spirit was being transformed, firstly into “intellect”, then as one with the soul, until one day it was decided to remove It completely as a constituent part of the human being, leaving behind only body and soul.

        It became a success: man forgot about the Spirit. And he also lost the keys to the bigger questions. It is hoped that man never finds out the right answers to these fundamental questions: Who am I? Why am I here? What am I supposed to be doing? Why is there so much misery in this world? Is there such a thing as evil? If there is, then why does it exist? Are we to blame? If we are, then what about the natural world? Is that also our undoing? The thunderstorms and meteor bombardment in Jupiter, for example, is that also the fault of human beings? Were the sins of humanity its cause?

        If you begin with the Spirit, you will ask how could something uncreated exist in something that was created? And if so, then does that also mean it contains the answers to all that was created because it’s the only thing that was not created? If so, how do we access it inside us? And if we can, what then?

        That is the first key. Everything in the gospels would suddenly make sense to you. Where there used to be parables (whose meanings were reserved for the disciples), you will find greater truths. Some can be converted into practical sciences. Most are about how to liberate the Spirit. That is the highest goal I could understand from all of it, which is what “salvation” is all about anyway.

        ************

        Be careful with the yardstick. Do not fall into the trap of its current form. A lot are missing from it and have been awfully distorted to such a degree where the words and teachings of Jesus no longer coincided with them. The Old Testament does not contain a single uniform system of theology. This fact is admitted in modern scholarship. It was also translated and compiled in such a way where it supported a certain socio-political/religious view that did not hold together in terms of theology but nonetheless can be attested to by archeological finds. Just because it was archeologically validated (places, events, historicity) does not make a book spiritually essential (especially when it begins to use the words God or Lord interchangeably even if they originally referred to a specific name or word).

        Paul understood this in his own way, and this was why he declared that the Law was “ordained by angels” and not God (Gal. 3:19).

        “Eph 6:12: For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”

        The yardstick is not exempt from corruption. Test everything, believe nothing at first. Even early theologians like Clement had this to say about it:

        “A list of falsehoods about “God” which have been added to the scriptures by the wicked one:

        ‘Wherefore, far he it from us to believe that the Lord of all, who made the heaven and the earth, and all things that are in them, shares His government with others (Dt. 32:8–9, Job 1:12), or that He lies (Ex. 6:3, Gen. 22:14). For if He lies, then who speaks truth? Or that He makes experiments as in
        ignorance (Gen. 2:19); for then who foreknows? And if He deliberates, and changes His purpose (Gen. 2:18), who is perfect in understanding and permanent in design? If He envies, who is above rivalry? (Ex. 20:3–5) If He hardens hearts, who makes wise? (Ex. 7:2–3) If He makes blind and deaf, who has given sight and hearing? (Is. 6:10) If He commits pilfering, who administers justice? If He mocks, who is sincere? If He is weak, who is omnipotent? If He is unjust, who is just? If He makes evil things, who shall make good things? (Is. 45:7, Prov. 16:4) If He does evil, who shall do good? (Homily 2:43)”

        If you believe in Jesus, then stick to his theology (especially the words directly attributed to him) and pursue everything that coincides with it…even if it is outside the orthodox canon, or even if it is entirely from a different philosophical tradition. Truth is multi-faceted, inter and intra-disciplinary. And most of all, apply it. Theory is dead unless applied.

      • jpeter262

        God revealed to us what He want us to understand and/or comprehend. The Bible is a perfect book. Nothing else is better to use as a yardstick. It is a good guide for us to live God’s way of life (2 Tim 3 16-17). Jesus Christ revealed through John (Rev 1:1) the soon coming Kingdom of God on earth (Rev 20:1-15). Jesus Christ Himself preached the Gospel of the Kingdom of God (Mark 1:14-15). For that purpose He was sent by the Father (Luke 4:43)

        – – All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Tim 3:16-17)

        “”In the beginning of Christianity, the first Christian theologians, Saint Augustine””

        This statement is from the point of view influence by the Catholic. The Bible revealed that the First Christians established by Jesus Christ started on Pentecost.

        – – When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. (Acts 2:1-4)

        “”archeologically validated (places, events, historicity)””

        Seeing the archaeological proof with our own necked eyes can make a different perspectives in life.

      • TruthHurts

        “The Bible is a perfect book.”

        No it is NOT. Definitely NOT. I will say that again, NO it is NOT.

        To insist that would be to invite a deluge of its mistakes (philosophical, historical, factual, theological). It did not come from heaven as a complete package, as is, like a static operating system. It was debated upon, translated, redacted, recompiled and have different canons, agreed upon by the fallibility of humans.

        That is the most subtle form of deceit that modern humans have been subjected to…to be made to believe, that a compilation of books, as is, is flawless and just sprung into existence like a divinely-emanated software.

        Do not make the mistake of worshiping the book (in its current form) as opposed to the Spirit which gives life, value and meaning to its texts. Do not make a religion, instead, seek the Truth.

        Even Paul, unorthodox his ways may be, understood it as:

        “And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole Law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. For our part we by Spirit are eagerly waiting for the hoped-for righteousness as a result of faith. For as regards Christ Jesus neither circumcision is of any value nor is uncircumcision, but faith operating through love [is]” (Galatians 5:2-6).

        ” We are now rid of the Law … free to serve in the new spiritual way and not the old way of a written law” (Romans 7:6).

        The book is just an object. Do not make an idol out of it. The Word of God, or The Logos is a Spirit. It is written IN US from the very beginning and was also personified by The Christ. The very breath we make contains it. The Logos is a vibration of energy like a note on a violin that weaves several universes and their systems. We may look at it as the programming language of the cosmos which is alive.

        “You are demonstrating that you are the Messiah’s letter, produced by our service, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.” (2 Corinthians 3:3)

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        “This statement is from the point of view influence by the Catholic. The Bible revealed that the First Christians established by Jesus Christ started on Pentecost.”

        Very well, let me rephrase that:

        “Theologians who tried to formally, systematically and philosophically inquire into its contents and meaning like Augustine of Hippo, held the tripartite components of human beings. The tripartite view of man was considered an orthodox interpretation in the first three centuries of the church. Many of the early church fathers taught that man is made up of body, soul, and spirit. Irenaeus, Tatian, Melito, Didymus of Alexandria, Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Gregory of Nyssa, Basil of Cesaraea, all held to the distinction firmly.”

        “And the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved entire, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus the Christ.” (1 Thessalonians 5:23)

        “For the Word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12)

      • jpeter262

        If that is how you understand the Bible, fair enough. Who am
        I to question God who gave you that kind of understanding. I can only tell what is presently revealed to me by God the Father through Jesus Christ the Son. At the end of the day we can compare notes.

        – – those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. (John 5:29-30)

        There is no book available in this present age that can lead
        to God’s way of life better than the Holy Bible. A classical example is the Ten Commandments summarized into two Law of Love.

        – – The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul; The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; (Psalms 19:7)

        Most “Christians” tried to find excuses to abolish the Ten Commandments. Most of the world’s trouble is because people don’t want to follow the law.

        If and only if the Pilipinos will follow the law there will be no corruption, no pork barrel scandal, no liar, no stealing, no murderer, no coveting, no paedophiles, everyone honour their parents, and of course everyone will honour God. What a beautiful country to live in the Philippines. This is just a dream. In reality this will only happen when Jesus Christ comes back to establish the soon coming Kingdom of God, as King of kings and Lord of lords (Rev 19:16 & Rev 20:1-15)

        What a Revelation by Jesus Christ to John! (Rev 1:1).

        Let us aim to be in the First Resurrection (Rev 20:5-6). Be
        among the Saints of God, who fallow God’s commandment (Rev 14:12)

        – – Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen. (Gal 1:3-5)

      • TruthHurts

        “The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul; The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; (Psalms 19:7)”

        תּוֹרַת יְהֹוָה תְּמִימָה מְשִׁיבַת נָפֶשׁ עֵדוּת
        יְהֹוָה נֶאֱמָנָה מַחְכִּימַת פֶּתִי:

        In Jewish, that is read as “The Torah of ADONAI is perfect, restoring the inner person. The instruction of ADONAI is sure, making wise the thoughtless.”

        What about the laws of Ἰαοὺ (Iao) and the other elohims which we deceivingly compounded into just one word “God”? Aren’t they perfect as well?

        If they are, why do they appear experimental and borne-out of trial and error? They surely complement each other, but not out of forethought but as afterthoughts. That doesn’t appear to be earmarks of perfection but the struggle to evolve into perfection. Such means may indeed unfold to become perfect or “fit” (when stretched to its logical conclusion) but only relative to Time (or the specific dimension) that bears it. And Time itself is crude and imperfect from the higher perspective, even from a human standpoint.

        If it is, it cannot produce aberrations. It would always yield the best possible results. And obviously it does not. Our histories are a living testament to all of its horrific mistakes.

      • jpeter262

        Thanks for the info.

        Is there any book existing in this world better than the
        Holy Bible?

        Is there any existing law better than the Ten Commandments?

        I mean better in such a way that they can lead us to better
        life now on this earth and to the eternal life living in God’s Kingdom with Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords. The God’s way of life – – Loving God and loving fellow man.

        “Mahirap talagang tanggapin ang katotohanan kung
        minsan”

        Let us admit that the root cause of all the problems in this
        evil world is because we, I mean we, the people, are trying to avoid the law, find excuses not to follow the law, dissolves the law or abolish the law as a whole. Why don’t we people try to follow it? Follow God’s Law. Follow God’s way of life.

        Satan the Devil is the god of this evil world. He knew he
        has a very short time left to rule this world. He is very active now and continuously deceiving many.

        – – “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. (Prov 9:10)

        – – The fear of the Lord leads to life, And he who has it will abide in satisfaction; He will not be visited with evil. (Prov 19:23)

        – – The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, To turn one away
        from the snares of death. (Prov 14:27)

        What is your priority in life?

        This is mine:

        a) Nothing before the True God. b) Obey God no matter what. c) Seek first the Kingdom of God.

        – – But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. (Matt 6:33)

        Let us seek the Truth .

        – – And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32)

      • TruthHurts

        “Is there any book existing in this world better than the
        Holy Bible?”

        I am after Truth, so I am keeping the answer to that as objective and unbiased as may be possible. All sacred wisdom and disciplines claim supremacy. Most can be validated for historicity. As to their spiritual paradigms, those are subject for testing and further inquiry. So maybe we ought to consider all and check which proved themselves relative to their own claims.

        “Is there any existing law better than the Ten Commandments?”

        The Invincible Power of Love.

        The Bible itself summarized those into only just two (both of which are mere gradations of LOVE). We have several versions of those. Which Ten Commandments are we supposed to adhere to? The Ten does not even answer the deeper quest for what is truly right and why it is right. “Do not steal and do not covet”, for example, does not hold true in a society where everything is communal such as the society of monks. Do not commit adultery does not hold true among those who desire to remain unmarried.

        “Let us admit that the root cause of all the problems in this evil world is because we, I mean we, the people, are trying to avoid the law, find excuses not to follow the law, dissolves the law or abolish the law as a whole.”

        Partly.

        I feel that our laws were designed (apart from practical reasons) not to allow the Spirit, shackled in the soul of man, to manifest Itself. Our laws want man to act through his soul and not his Spirit. For this reason it is necessary to oppress man, frighten and worry him. We have designed laws that oppress the Spirit and keep it docile, while you would find among the parables that we should actually seek and awaken it.

        I would not blame humanity completely because there are some things that are simply beyond human error. Humanity has suffered and witnessed a wide variety of horrors historically. Burning, beheading, wars, floggings, rapes, robberies, unjust executions, tortures, massacres, diseases, earthquakes, floods, famines, genetic abnormalities, spiritual possessions, mental diseases, ignorance, betrayals, and crushing ennui. These horrors do not serve any apparent greater good, but point partly to the cruelty and folly of humanity, the indifference of the natural world and the deceptions of forces still unknown to man.

        It is not because we did not desire to follow the law, but this dimension itself was created (or came into being, or evolved into what it is now) as defective, miserable and cruel as you could imagine. Unquestionably, the bigger fish will always swallow the smaller fish, and in the depths of the jungle the weaker will succumb before the stronger; thus, this is the law of life. It does not matter how vegetarian we may be, the truth is that under the ground, our body will be devoured by maggots and saprophytes. Is that our fault? Was it our disobedience to whatever law that caused all of that? The attack of dengue fever, epidemics, spiders and wasps, for example, or the attack of the black plague, are those human disobedience to the Law?

        “Seek first the Kingdom of God.”

        And the kingdom is the Spirit within us. It belongs to another dimension. I am certain that that dimension is not the material plane made of matter and time which we currently are both trapped inside in.

        [John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world."]

        This “creation” or dimension is full of mistakes and is certainly imperfect. And if this world is imperfect, if matter is imperfect or if everything that exists in the universe is imperfect, it is because the one who created it is an imperfect being…just an elohim…a lesser rank in the angelic or spiritual hierarchy.

        It is but a small bubble made of dense energy and gases trapped inside an even bigger dimension which is completely different from it. Where do you think does a black-hole lead to? Or where does universal gravity eventually come from?

      • jpeter262

        jpeter262 TruthHurts

        BIBLE:

        There is no other book ever written that is inspired by God other than the Holy Bible, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work (2 Tim 3:16-17). It is inspired by God and it can only tell the Truth.

        The writers were inspired by Jesus Christ so it must be good
        and True. Jesus Christ is the only one without sin (Heb 4:15). Sin is a transgression of the law.

        TEN COMMANDMENTS:

        You are right, the two law of love summarized the Ten Commandments. Jesus Christ said the same thing. The first four is about loving God and the last six is about loving fellow man.

        – – On these two commandments hang all the Law and the
        Prophets.” (Matt 22:40)

        Nothing else is better than the Ten Commandments of God. All the law in this world is based on it. People are just trying to adjust their law based on their culture and beliefs.

      • TruthLiberates

        “Sin is a transgression of the law.”

        Not so. Sin is separation from the primal energy (which naturally can only produce error and misery).

        “The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” 2 Corinthians 3:6

        No matter what we do, for as long as we are made of matter and born in this dimension, we are prone to error and death. Because the Spirit is removed from its natural habitation. We happen to be in the outskirts of the central energy. This solar system and universe is just one of many, and it happens to be very far from the purest of energies, leading to so many horrific mistakes. To be trapped here is sinful. According to Jesus, it is possible to be saved from this condition. That remains a claim until we could do it.

      • jpeter262

        II.

        GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD:

        Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom of God (Mark 1:14-15). For that purpose He was sent by the Father (Luke4:43). Forty days after His resurrection He continued preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God (Acts 1:3). The Apostles continued preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom
        of God (Act 28:31) until all died for telling the Truth with a horrible death except John. The Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come (Matt 24:14). Let us do our part in the Gospel.

        Jesus Christ in His 3 1/2 years ministry, He told the Apostles that not everyone can understand the Mystery of the Kingdom of God.

        – – “To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, so that ‘Seeing they may see and not
        perceive, And hearing they may hear and not understand; Lest they should turn, And their sins be forgiven them.’ ” (Mark 4:11-12)

      • TruthLiberates

        “To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God”

        We certainly lost the methods and teachings of the early Christians. And very few in our times have become successful in evincing the powers of the Spirit inside them. The Spirit inside us (or the energy that powers the human heart/cardiac muscle) is made of another kind of energy that is capable of boring a hole through the fabric of Time and its physical rules. Time is like a net/fabric or ocean that we can bore a hole into and break some of its constants. It is claimed that the Spirit inside us is capable of doing that, and many more. Such was known among the apostles and even to Simon Magus [who later had a confrontation with Peter and was even hurled from his levitating-spree by the latter (from Acts of Peter)].

      • jpeter262

        III.

        THOUSAND YEAR RULE OF JESUS CHRIST ON EARTH:

        Jesus Christ revealed through John in Revelation (Rev1:1) the coming Kingdom, Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords. The Saints who follow the commandments of God (Rev14:12) will be with Him in the First Resurrection as King and Priest and shall reign with Him a thousand years on earth. Let us aim to be in the First Resurrection with Christ.

        – – But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. (Rev 20:5-6).

        – – And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.” (Rev 5:10)

      • jpeter262

        IV.

        LIFE WITHOUT SATAN, THE DEVIL:

        Satan the devil will be bound during the Millennial Rule of Jesus Christ. Toward the end Satan will be released for a little while before his final judgement. (Rev 20:1-10)

        How wonderful life it will be life without Satan the deceiver. Everyone follow the commandment of God. It will no longer be a dream. It will be a reality. Everyone loves each other.

      • jpeter262

        V.

        JESUS CHRIST KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD:

        Jesus Christ Kingdom is not of this world. Satan the Devil, liar from the beginning is the god of this evil world. Let us come out of this world.

        – – Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. (John 12:31)

      • TruthLiberates

        “from the beginning is the god of this evil world”

        Satan, is a relatively new term. He is known as God in other languages. To put it simply, all the known gods are evil (or relatively inferior). If the god has a name, it must be a principality or one of the elohims, most of which are inferior.

        The real one…is unknown and unknowable. And is claimed by The Christos to be somewhere among the highest heavens. That is a matter of faith, as there is no possible method within our current disposal and means to validate that.

      • jpeter262

        VI.

        THE KINGDOM OF THIS WORLD BECOME THE KINGDOM
        OF JESUS CHRIST.

        – – The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Rev 11:15)

      • TruthLiberates

        That has not yet happened. OBVIOUSLY.

        If it did, life as we know it, would be free of misery and imperfection.

        “Mortals, born of woman, are of few days and full of trouble.” Job 14:1

        Maybe it will be purified by fire in the future as claimed by the prophecy to give rise to a spiritual type of planet. But so far, matter is still entropic, and everything that it can naturally evince out of itself. I’m wondering why it was even sanctified when it appears to be a fatal mistake in the spiritual hierarchy. What is the reason for “saving” it, if it was perfect to begin with.

      • jpeter262

        BIBLE:

        There is no other book ever written that is inspired by God other than the Holy Bible, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work (2 Tim 3:16-17). It is inspired by God and it can only tell the Truth.

        The writers were inspired by Jesus Christ so it must be good
        and True. Jesus Christ is the only one without sin (Heb 4:15). Sin is a transgression of the law.

        TEN COMMANDMENTS:

        You are right, the two law of love summarized the Ten
        Commandments. Jesus Christ said the same thing. The first four is about loving God and the last six is about loving fellow man.

        – – On these two commandments hang all the Law and the
        Prophets.” (Matt 22:40)

        Nothing else is better than the Ten Commandments of God. All the law in this world is based on it. People are just trying to adjust their law based on their culture and beliefs.

        GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD:

        Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom of God (Mark 1:14-15). For that purpose He was sent by the Father (Luke 4:43). Forty days after His resurrection He continued preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God (Acts 1:3). The Apostles continued preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God (Act 28:31) until all died
        for telling the Truth with a horrible death except John. The Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come (Matt 24:14). Let us do our part in the Gospel.

        Jesus Christ in His 3 1/2 years ministry, He told the Apostles that not everyone can understand the Mystery of the Kingdom of God.

        – – “To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, so that ‘Seeing they may see and not
        perceive, And hearing they may hear and not understand; Lest they should turn, And their sins be forgiven them.’ ” (Mark 4:11-12)

      • jpeter262

        Part b.

        THOUSAND YEAR RULE OF JESUS CHRIST ON EARTH:

        Jesus Christ revealed through John in Revelation (Rev1:1) the coming Kingdom, Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords. The Saints who follow the commandments of God (Rev14:12) will be with Him in the First Resurrection as King and Priest and shall reign with Him a thousand years on earth. Let us aim to be in the First Resurrection with Christ.

        – – But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. (Rev 20:5-6).

        – – And have made us kings and priests to our God; And
        we shall reign on the earth.” (Rev 5:10)

      • TruthHurts

        “with Christ” and not with Jesus Christ. The Christ is one of the primordial spirits. It may come back in its spiritual form and not in its human form as it first came here.

      • jpeter262

        The Bible says Jesus Christ is coming back and shall reign on earth. It is up to the individual if they really want to believe the Bible, the mind of God in writing

        – – But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. (Rev 20:5-6)

        – – And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we
        shall reign on the earth.” (Rev 5:10)

        I am talking about Jesus Christ, the Saviour, the Son of God. Not only Peter knew Him as the Christ but also the Romans, the Jews and even the devil. Here are some of the verses in the Bible that specifically mentioned that Jesus is the Christ

        – – And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ. (Matt 1:16)

        – – You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus
        answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. (Matt 16:16-17)

        – – Then He commanded His disciples that they should
        tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ. (Matt 16:20)

        – – While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus
        asked them, saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?” They said to Him, “The Son of David.” He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ‘? “If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?” And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did (Matt 22:41-46)

        – -But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and
        said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!” Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.” (Matt 26:63-64)

        – – “Whom do you want me to release to you? Barabbas, or
        Jesus who is called Christ?” (Matt 27:17)

        – – The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. (Mark 1:1)

        – – He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Peter answered and said to Him, “You are the Christ.” Then He strictly warned them that they should tell no one about Him. (Mark 8:29-30)

        – – Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?”(Mark 14:61)

        – – Now as the people were in expectation, and all reasoned
        in their hearts about John, whether he was the Christ or not, John answered, saying to all, “I indeed baptize you with water; but One mightier than I is coming, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to loose. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. (Luke 3:15-16)

        – – You are the Christ, the Son of God!” And He, rebuking them, did not allow them to speak, for they knew that He was the Christ. (Luke 4:41)

        – – “Now we believe, not because of what you said, for we
        ourselves have heard Him and we know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world.” (John 4:42)

        – – but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name. (John 20:31)

        – – And daily in the temple, and in every house, they did not cease teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ. (Acts 5:42)

        – – “Aeneas, Jesus the Christ heals you. Arise and make your bed.” (Acts 9:34)

  • mindanao1

    It may therefore surprise these Christian followers that even the Bible gives proof that it is possible to talk to the dead. This is written in Book I of Samuel in the Old Testament (28:1-28), where King Saul asked a medium in Endor to summon the spirit of the prophet Samuel and succeeded in doing so.

    It is obvious, the author does not understand the state of the dead and misunderstood many of the Bible verses that says the dead does not know anything.

    • TruthHurts

      “the dead and misunderstood many of the Bible verses that says the dead does not know anything”

      Such as? Cite one verse.

      The word “dead” in many ancient texts do not really refer to our usual interpretation which is corporal death. Death may refer to “ignorance” itself which is a state of consciousness where one is so disconnected from the true source of all wisdom and knowledge. Even as physically-living humans, we are sometimes referred to as “dead” because of the current state of consciousness we are in.

    • jpeter262

      Saul seek a medium instead of trusting God. Him and his Son Jonathan died (2 Sam 1:4-5). David replaced Saul as King.

      • TruthHurts

        As I understand it, it was prohibited in the old testament to communicate with the dead because some things were not allowed to be known to man. We are not allowed to know about the spirit inside us and why it is imprisoned in both matter and time.

        Such knowledge, you see, would betray the nature and character of the one who imprisoned it.

      • jpeter262

        It was never been allowed to talk with the dead. If we go on
        the premise that the dead know nothing (Ecc 9:15) and the Bible explain itself. Therefore there is no need for Christians to talk with the dead.

        There was an incident when the Holy Spirit of God was given
        with the spirit in man during the day of Pentecost.

        – – When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. (Acts 2:1-4)

  • Bangusboneless

    Surprisingly these mediums never perform well under scientific conditions… and licauco is dependent on testimonies and heresays. And by the way, he recycles articles every few years.

    • TruthHurts

      Because the genuine ones use their powers for their own goals. If you know the truth, you would guard it with your life for you will realize that not everybody can be trusted to possess it. It would be for the safety of the entire race that some things are doubted, as opposed to having everyone play with something they do not even understand deeply. Physical existence would be much safer for everybody that these things are not practiced nor taught openly. It has always been that way. Review all civilizations. There has always been an “inner circle.” For its consequences are said to dissolve the very fabric of physicality and allow forces that do not belong to our dimension to wreck havoc on our so-called life (not that it isn’t chaotic as it already is).

      The American Society for Psychical Research has a vast collection of all documented and possibly validated researches on the matter.

      • Bangusboneless

        I used to believe in these things, i have read too many books regrding these topics but changed my opinion after noting NO new progress besides testimonies. Some videos taken are dubious in my opinion and reflect classic pareidolia. If there is something undiscovered, it might be because we dont have the right equipments for it yet. Now, If the the genuine psychics do exist and would rather keep it to themselves, how do we know they exist? How was it known that an “inner circle” exist?
        if the genuine ones do keep themselves hidden, then the onces visible are all frauds… The idea of “sacred wisdom” to me has no definite meaning. It has no reference or value at all. Sacred in reference to what? Wisdom in what aspect of human human existence? Review what part of civilizations? Are you referring to von daniken who mistranslated old writings? It has always been this way? How? And in what way?
        I visited the aprs, org..I didnt seemuch but old 70s journals and a few “no significant statistical difference” studies.
        With cellphone cameras being ubiquitous nowadays, we still have yet to see validated videos..

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