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Censored in the temple of the Lord: Who is Carlos Celdran, really?

And why is he saying those terrible things about priests?

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EMPHATICALLY making a point. PHOTO BY ANDREW TADALAN

Two years ago, on a late afternoon, tour operator and performance artist Carlos Celdran was arrested for reportedly interrupting Mass in Manila Cathedral to stage a protest against priests and bishops interfering with the passage of the Reproductive Health Bill.

Dressed as National Hero José Rizal and standing before the altar, Celdran raised a placard that read “Damaso.” He was taken away by the police, but not until after he had shouted to the clergy present: “Stop getting involved in politics!”

That evening, Msgr. Nestor Cerbo, rector of Manila Cathedral (Basilica of the Immaculate Conception), filed charges against Celdran for violation of Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code, which penalizes acts that are “offensive to religious feelings.”

The following day, he was released from the custody of the Manila Police District after posting a bail of P6,000.

People who heard the news gasped, simmered or giggled. Even some of the faithful who sympathized with Celdran had reservations about his protest action. Freedom of expression can only go so far—do it if you dare, but not during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass! Try doing that during service at a mosque and see if we won’t witness a beheading.

“First of all, it was not during Mass, it was not a liturgical service,” Celdran clarifies. “It was an ecumenical meeting of Catholics and non-Catholics where they were selling Bible. There were priests as well as laymen, each giving points of reflection. I waited for the person to finish, I genuflected before the altar, before I raised my placard.”

If he really wanted to hit at the sanctimony of the clergy, why Padre Damaso, who turns somewhat sympathetic toward the final chapters of Rizal’s “Noli Me Tangere”? Why not Padre Salvi, the real snake in the grass?

“Because Damaso represents abuse of power,” Celdran says. “Remember when he has the remains of Ibarra’s father exhumed? And his threat of excommunication I link to the bishops’ threat of excommunicating President Aquino [for supporting the RH Bill, which he subsequently signed into law late last year].”

Conflicted youth

Celdran says he’s not anti-Catholic. He was a schoolboy educated by priests, in fact, and had a rigid Catholic upbringing.

Born John Charles Edward Pamintuan Celdran, he grew up in Dasmariñas Village in Makati and attended Colegio San Agustin.

“A super-super-super-sosyal school,” he says. “Many of its products have become show-biz, all sosyal, all super-sheltered. Life revolved around the village and the school—and I hated it.”

While still in high school, he found a job as a cartoonist for a business paper with an office in Manila.

“I was paid P50 per comic strip of four frames,” he says. “I commuted all the way from Makati to Port Area weekly to see [the late cartoonist] Nonoy Marcelo. That was how I knew all about Manila. Imagine being transported from Makati to Manila—it was like a time machine. The real journey began when leaving Makati, taking the bus to Taft, the LRT, then walking to Port Area, to deliver my strip. I was discovering Intramuros.”

Marcelo recommended him to the Samahang Kartunista ng Pilipinas, and he became its youngest member. Then he did T-shirt illustrations for a clothing store he founded with his sister and friends.

He enrolled at the University of the Philippines’ Department of Visual Communications.

“At UP, that was where I saw things,” he relates. “I saw my first marijuana, I saw my first lesbian, I saw my first farmer’s daughter. I was making lakwatsa in college. I explored Malate. I went to where the bohemians gathered, at Penguin, at Blue Café. I could not go back [to sheltered life].”

He transferred to the Rhode Island School of Design to major in Painting. Finding he was allergic to paint, he shifted and got a degree in Performance Art, graduating with honors.

CARLOS Celdran’s paper collage of his wife Tesa. PHOTO BY ANDREW TADALAN

In the mid-’90s, he lived and worked in New York, juggling jobs, from cheese-counter boy to fish-station boy, from production assistant of a performance group, to technical director of a dance company.

It was in New York where he witnessed the devastation of AIDS. That was what turned him into an activist for HIV/AIDS awareness, reproductive health, family planning.

Cultural activism

On returning to Manila in the late ’90s, he worked as a set designer and director for Ballet Philippines and Actor’s Actors, Inc. He also volunteered for the Heritage Conservation Society, where he discovered his “talent for handling historical tours.”

In 2002, he founded his company Walk This Way, providing half-day walking tours of the heritage districts of Manila, from Quiapo to Intramuros to the Cultural Center of the Philippines, even overnight tours of Corregidor.

At around this time, he was working as consultant for arts and culture for Manila City Hall. He helped Mayor Lito Atienza create Baywalk and push for the pedestrianization of Avenida Rizal—which all came to naught with the change of administration.

His walking tours became popular only after five years. He says his influences and inspiration in his cultural activism are National Artist Nick Joaquin and writer Gilda Cordero-Fernando.

In the tour called If These Walls Could Talk, garbed in the Spanish-colonial attire of an ilustrado, he guides people around the Walled City while telling stories, singing, dancing, crying, doing magic acts.

In “Living la Vida Imelda!” he wears bell-bottoms and leads a tour of CCP while telling facts and fancies about former First Lady Imelda Marcos.

“It’s hard to do these tours,” he says. “I consider it as my yoga. I don’t party as much as I did. I do it 100-percent, like when people do golf, or when you go to church. My day is incomplete without these tours.”

Tour and performance have often blurred. From the temple of culture was only a step into the temple of God, and it was inevitable the scandal in the cathedral had to occur.

Today Celdran averages 40 people per tour of 2-3 hours, Wednesday-Saturday, now mostly confined to Intramuros. Understandably, Manila Cathedral and San Agustin Church have become forbidden grounds.

ACCOMPLISHED artworks. PHOTO BY ANDREW TADALAN

“I just stay outside San Agustin and tell the tourists to go inside if they want to,” he says. “As for Manila Cathedral, structurally damaged ’yun—but that’s not my fault.”

 

Art and censorship

Last year, he was commissioned by Art Dubai Projects to perform his CCP tour as a one-man act in Dubai’s annual art fair. In the middle of his third performance, he was “interrupted by robed authorities [after doing] an imagined conversation between Imelda Marcos and late Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi.”

He says the morality police of Dubai must have misconstrued the conversation as an incitement à la Arab Spring.

They took him to the parking lot and reproved him, then into an office where he was questioned by security officials. Traumatized, he canceled the performance, but not until after covering his mouth with packing tape at his hotel’s lobby to protest the censorship.

(The uncensored version of “Living la Vida Imelda!” he will perform at Silverlens Gallery on Feb. 15-March 16, 7 p.m.)

An overlooked talent of Celdran is his accomplished art-making, which he does in his spare time. The artworks are done with paper cutouts shaped into mosaics and brushed over with paint. One collage evokes the look and color tonality of Julian Schnabel’s mosaic of porcelain shards.

Celdran says he is an advocate of random acts of beauty, such as doing flower arrangement or instant installation in the salon of his Malate apartment. “I believe one must do one beautiful act to complete a day.”

He is a bike enthusiast. He pushes for brown rice not only to support good health but also to help small farmers. “I don’t eat pork. Everything in moderation is fine.”

He has a farm in Nasugbu, Batangas, where he grows organic vegetables like lettuce and arugula. He has built a nipa hut there, where wife Leny is planning to put up a yoga studio. Monday-Wednesday is usually spent in the farm, away from the frenzy and madness of the metropolis.

 

Dangerous law

Two weeks ago, the verdict on Celdran’s case was given. He was found guilty and sentenced to one year, one month and 11 days in prison.

He had apologized to the Archdiocese of Manila, and the bishops said they had “forgiven him in the name of the Lord but not in the earthly realm.” Which made him quip: “As far as they are concerned, I can go to heaven but I have to go to jail first.”

He and his legal team are going to make an appeal at the Manila Metropolitan Trial Court (Branch 4) Monday afternoon, to reverse the decision and “hopefully to repeal the law—because it’s dangerous.”

He is aware it may take years before the case is over. “I may just go down as a footnote in history. Okay lang ’yun… and then I can go to my nipa hut.”

In a low, weary voice, he confides it has become harder for him day by day to believe that our connection to a Higher Being is only through the priests. There’s been a lot of confusion about the issue as many of the faithful, in fact, can’t even differentiate Church from clergy, not to say distinguish Church from church. “Anticlerical,” of course, doesn’t mean “anti-Church.”

Still, Celdran insists on the innocence of his protest action inside the cathedral.

“I wouldn’t have done it during Mass. I also know these things. Come on. I’m Catholic. If my plane is crashing I’ll pray ‘Hail Mary.’”


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  • donsupremo

    yeah… there are no atheist in exploding fox holes 

    • tamumd

      Have you been to “exploding fox holes” full of atheists? Maybe in gullible cowards-full fox holes like yourself.

      • ShibumiNinja

        @tamumd:disqus 

        하지만 모든 게 애인 / 신부 basher / 여기 없습니까에게 일반 있도록하는 … 당신은 사람들이 할 수있는 더 많은 건설적인 것은 그 / 그녀의 대통령 사면을 발행 PNoy 청원은 … 저 사람이 방금 그를 공화국의 대통령으로 투표 할 수 후 행동하는 기초가 이루어

      • tamumd

        Whatever..I don’t read and speak Hanggul so you wouldn’t get a sensible reply back in Korean from me. If you cannot show your argument where people could understand what you wanted to say…well then it’s your loss. lol. I don’t believe you even understand what you typed. I’m sure you did it either in english or tagalog then clicked on google translate. THis is is not the first time you’re doing this..I saw you did it in German too to which someone caught you..coz it doesn’t make any sense.

      • RegineMarfie

        kung wala ka pakialam kay Celdran umalis ka dito… di namin kailangan dito mga bading na sugo ng Katoliko kaka hiya ka troller

      • tamumd

        Again another nitwit….who cannot comprehend what I have been writing all along. If you own PDI you have all the right to shoo me away. If you don’t then..tough luck for you buddy! I am not going away.

      • donsupremo

        if you are truly somebody who supports than do not make people focus on you by attacking other people without reason… hindi ikaw kausap ko nung sinabi ko yun. I was referring my comment to celdran not to you. pang gulo ka sa usapin eh you manifest your self as a troller counter propaganda agent of the clerico facists.

      • tamumd

        I didn’t have the slightest intention of wanting for people to focus on me. I was correcting your ignorant comment about atheists. First of all according to Celdran he still believes in a god..so in no way he is an atheist. Right then and there you’re already wrong. That’s all. You’re in a forum….expect to hear differing opinions. You have to explain your side why you said what you said….not some juvenile posturing and hilarious, unfounded accusations. Again did you check my old rejoinders. Those are the evidence…I am not on the side of the corrupt catholic church.

      • donsupremo

        bakit dude… inutusan ka ba ng simbahan katoliko na pumunta dito para mang gulo sa usapin dito… you sound like an agitator trying to deflect the discussion here with you abrasive comments. who are you really favoring are you really  in favor of celdran or are you a counter propaganda agent for the catholic priests… show your colors 

      • tamumd

        lol….the catholic church sent me here? Really? Just read my thousands of comments in my profile if I love the catholic church to death. Also read my comment above. That’ll show you how i love those hypocrites.

      • tamumd

        Hahahahaha now I know which side you’re coming from. You’re the legitimate “catholic troll” that you’re accusing me. I went to check your profile and read all your old rejoinders..and it’s clear that you’re on the side of the hypocrite DAMASOS. lol

        Also Shibumininja, RegineMarfie are highly likely you. Case in point…like Shibumi you love to respond to people in some foreign language I doubt you even understand. lol

      • donsupremo

        Troller ka pare… hindi ka nakaka tulong sa kaso ni celdran

      • tamumd

        No I am  not a troller. I am responding to your ignorant comment that atheists would change their minds and call for a “god” when they’re in danger..i.e. “in an exploding foxhole”.

      • RegineMarfie

        ganyan talaga mga sugo ng mga katoliko kunware para kay Celdran tapos mang gugulo sa usapan dito tinitira kung sino sino Troller ka

      • tamumd

        In your paranoid mind..I am a “catholic troller”. I challenge you to read my old rejoinders to show you if i really love the catholic church. lol

      • RegineMarfie

        kung talaga totoo ka huwag ka mang gulo. mag husay ka para ma impres ma nga pare… hindi yan gina gawa mo nangugulo ka sa usapan wina wala mo usapin dito para Ikaw ang pnag uusapan bwisit ka am bigat ng kaso nag punta ka lang dito par sirain ang usapin counter propagandista ka ng mga kleriko judas ka. traydor

      • tamumd

        Oh and you think by doing what you’re doing you’re helping the cause of Celdran? Seriously! Lemme see what kinda “important contribution you have to this discussion that would really help Celdran. NOTHING but your outburst. What a moron you are. Dahil nasupalpal ka…”propagandist” na ako? lol..Don’t be juvenile and funny.

      • RegineMarfie

        ganyan talaga mga sugo ng mga pari… nang guguglo ng usapin para sila ang mapag usapan… mang aasar ng ibang tao para ma sira ang supporta natin kay Celdran. mga wala kayo konsensya….wala kayo kaluluwa.

      • tamumd

        Hahahahaha..keep trying buddy. I am NO catholic minion! I am not trying to steal the discussion away from Carlos. I was just correcting your other persona’s ignorant comment about atheists. That’s all.

        Lemme check what earth shattering discussion you have made so far that would help Carlos….mmm NOTHING. lol

      • ShibumiNinja

        더 나은 당신이 반역 뱀있는 비난 celdran에 대한 교회의 의도를 홍보하고 여기에 대한 논의를 파괴 위해 자신을 부끄러워해야 사람들을 공격 중지

  • LabkoPinas

    Go for it Carlos! We are behind you in exposing the ridiculousness of these Pharisees! You should have a bank account where we can send our support for you and your cause which is equivalent to 70% I use to give for the church.

    • CaseBlue

      Not all Bishops and priests are “Damasos”. Most of them serve their vocations faithfully.

      • LabkoPinas

        I agree. It is just the old foggies who are remnants of the spanish friars.

    • http://www.facebook.com/william.cortes.963 Che Court

      he confides it has become harder for him day by day to believe that our connection to a Higher Being is only through the priests…. yes not only through priest but… I tell you the truth, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me.” John 13:20…”He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me Mt. 10:40; then jesus said “If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen EVEN to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.” (Mt: 18:17) ”I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven (MT:18:18)….TALO KA CELDRAN… STUPID KA LANG…I AM NOT A FANATIC TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH…BUT I FIND YOU REASONING STUPID..

      • LabkoPinas

        That is what the priests(pharisees) want you to follow like a carabao being led by the ring on its nose. Now who is dumb and dumber too, the one who prays to God with reason or the one who is led by the nose and chants the dictated prayers? Duh!

    • philip hernaez

      do it int he right place. there is no question there but just don’t step other’s freedom.

      • LabkoPinas

        You apparently read the version of the pharisees. The version of Celdran says that he did not disrespect their discussion regarding the RH bill but instead protested their interference with the states intention to pass the RH bill by raising the placard calling them Damasos. Which this old fogies in the church are. Isn’t it?

  • AllaMo

    More power for love and justice, Kabayang Carlos Celdran.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3VXUWOGAA2TGEISTZWRNVGJVZ4 nrcarcht

       And i believe the justice is also being serve.

      • amapangarap

        truth hurts doesnt it? that until now your church is being run by damasos.

        nagoyo kayo.lol

      • CaseBlue

        Not all Bishops and priests are “Damasos”. Most of them serve their vocations faithfully.

      • amapangarap

        and which vocation is that?

      • philip hernaez

        INC k ba? doon ka lumuhod ky Manalo.

      • amapangarap

        na hurt ang lolo. ikaw siguro niluluhuran ni father no?

      • http://www.facebook.com/william.cortes.963 Che Court

        he confides it has become harder for him day by day to believe that our connection to a Higher Being is only through the priests…. yes not only through priest but… I tell you the truth, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me.” John 13:20…”He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me Mt. 10:40; then jesus said “If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen EVEN to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.” (Mt: 18:17) ”I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven (MT:18:18)….TALO KA CELDRAN… STUPID KA LANG…I AM NOT A FANATIC TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH…BUT I FIND YOU REASONING STUPID..

      • amapangarap

        And you actually believe He was referring to your perverted priests?

      • http://www.facebook.com/william.cortes.963 Che Court

        so what’s your point?

      • amapangarap

        ha? di pa ba straight forward syo yang sinabi ko?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3VXUWOGAA2TGEISTZWRNVGJVZ4 nrcarcht

    Stupid, why calling yourself a catholic but doing the real attitude of being a catholic. Catholic church will intervene government interest as long as the issue also cross the lives of the church goers. Why not joining the liberal born again and not pretending to be a catholic wherein it was not proper to its faithful members to tarnish the church sanctity. Yes, possibly why not try it in the mosque Friday prayer or even in the INC chapels.
    You are a fan of Rizal’s ” Noli me Tangere”, but the author was only directing the abuse to the few friars but not the entire church.

    • amapangarap

      hypocrite. Thats what you are.

      Your saying its the right of the catholic church to meddle with politics, and yet you want Celdran jailed just for that one incident? Seriously, what happened with the case of that pedo priest who was convicted in the USA then got promoted here only to smuggle ivory?

      Saka pwede ba, bulok na yang reasoning na sa mosque or INC gawin nya yang pag protest. You stooges are basically saying that the catholic is church is no different from muslims or other religions – vengeful and irrational.

      • CaseBlue

        Not all Bishops and priests are “Damasos”. Most of them serve their vocations faithfully.  As to Celdran, the law may be harsh but it is the law.  With respect to erring priests, Pope Benedict XVI is already clamping down on this harshly.

      • tamumd

        “Clamping down” my behind…after he himself was involved in a similar situation in his former Archdiocese of Munich-Freissing. Then as the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith – the body responsible for the investigations of all these sexual molestation cases, under his leadership they tried tooth and nail to hide evidence and delayed the investigations by reassigning erring priests from one parish to another only to molest more children. That happened in Ireland, the US, Germany, Australia, Austria, Belgium and Mexico. So whatever he is doing now is a little too late and just for show..because he and his corrupt catholic hierarchy would look really bad in the eyes of the world if they continue their old tactics.

      • Tony Deb

        The Catholic Church, including the current Pope, has been covering up these crimes not for a couple of years but for decades. This is an established fact. This is the why the church has been paying hundreds of millions of dollars to the victims as restitution, not voluntarily mind you, but because the courts have forced them to.

      • amapangarap

        really? name one.

      • philip hernaez

        anong bulok na reasoning? try mo nga..

      • amapangarap

        bulok..laos..try na ano? tumira ng sakristan o mag smuggle ng ivory? lolz

    • Iamtommy

      He was very clear with his conviction. he made a clearer than a cloudless sky distinction between anti clerical and anti church, of which he is the former. Clearly you did not read the article or if you did, you didnt understand.

      • CaseBlue

        Still, he should not have made his protest inside a Cathedral during a religious service. I respect his right to express his opinion although I disagree with it. But, he went too far when he disrupted a religious service by holding up the sign “Damaso” and shouting.  A church is a sacred and holy place.

      • amapangarap

        clearly you did not read the article. What religious service are you saying? And why should the priest be offended with “Damaso”? Jesus was mocked more than that and yet He didnt act high and mighty like your priest.

        Di ba tinuturo yan sa inyo ng mga pari nyo during their sermon? ay hindi nga pala, puros pulitika nga pala tema ng sermon.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4GY2YEB4LB44XOKS67O56D56A celso

      cultists, unenlightened as they, are think and write like this.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YXF5QOV65XHXJTQB4R6SEOGUCU gilbert

    isa pang hayup yang celdran na yan, nagpa-putok lang ng damaso nya, ta ayan sikat na ,susunod yan nasa pulitika na yan, parang si honasan, lacson ang iba pa na nag-kudeta, wait nyo lang!

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.cortes.963 Che Court

    he confides it has become harder for him day by day to believe that our connection to a Higher Being is only through the priests…. yes not only through priest but… I tell you the truth, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me.” John 13:20…”He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me Mt. 10:40; then jesus said “If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen EVEN to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.” (Mt: 18:17) ”I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven (MT:18:18)….TALO KA CELDRAN… STUPID KA LANG…I AM NOT A FANATIC TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH…BUT I FIND YOU REASONING STUPID..

    • Baruk1

      Padre..

      Those verses refers only to Biblical God the Father who sent His son Jesus Christ. The church refer to the God’s people. The priest must represent the biblical priest. Applicable only to the true representative of Jesus Christ. As what Apostle said
      “Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ”. (1 Cor 11:1)

      The Catholic priest is not a true representative of Jesus Christ. They don’t even believe Jesus Christ. If the Catholic priest do believe, they should follow the Ten Commandments given by God the Father through Jesus Christ. The truth is they don’t – - – One(1) about graven image, two(2) about Sabbath Law, Three(3) and others things (lying?, coveting? adultery? etc..)

      • http://www.facebook.com/william.cortes.963 Che Court

        now i’m blocked. this is freedom of speech

      • http://www.facebook.com/william.cortes.963 Che Court

        now we have a sabadista… punta ka nalang sa facebook at hapain mo ang debate site ng mga catholics at sabadista na kulto mo. ok? hindi mo nga marefute ang text ko

      • Baruk1

        Í am not a sabadista. I am a Christian that love Jesus Christ and follow His commandments   

         ”Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work,  but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.  For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. (Ex 20:8-11)   

        He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:4)  

        If you know Jesus Christ you must follow the commandments.  

        Why don’t you??

      • http://www.facebook.com/william.cortes.963 Che Court

        hahaha…. sabadista…not here kulto…not here..

      • Baruk1

        Does it come to your mind – - Why do you need to rest on Sun day following the Catholic Church and not on the Sabbath following the commandment of the Real God of the Bible??
         
        In the beginning of creation, God rested on the Sabbath. Noah rested on the Sabbath. For 40 yrs in the wilderness the man of God together with Moses observe the Sabbath. They could not get manna from heaven on the seventh day. God gave the ten commandments including remembering the Sabbath Law. Jesus Christ observed the Sabbath Law. All the Apostles observed Sabbath Law. More than hundred year after Jesus Christ died, the last book of the Bible was completed and all Biblical Christians observed Sabbath law as recorded in the Bible.
         
        THEY ARE NOT SABADISTA. You cannot see any verses in the Bible that the man of God including all biblical Christians observed Sun day.
         
        The Catholic observed Sun day under the influence of the Pagan emperor Constantine,  Centuries AD. Satan the devil, the God of this evil world love to deceived many. The sword and the cross became powerful and bring the pagan practice of Sun day world wide. The protestant and the other so called Christians protested against the curve image but retain some of the pagan practices including Christmas, Easter, Sun day, etc. Many of them trying to find justification of the Sun day but could not find a good reason.
         
        In the First Resurrection, those who will be qualified to be with Christ will surely observe the Sabbath law. Let us make it a goal to be there and start practicing the Commandments now.
         
        “”But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.”" (Rev 20:5-6)
         

      • White24

        “Ten Commandments given by God the Father through Jesus Christ.”… hahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaahaha,, pag sure oi,, hahahahahah,, you like Celdran,, hahahhhaah 

      • Baruk1

        All things were made through Jesus Christ:
         
        In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. (John 1:1-3) And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1:14)
         
        Jesus Christ gave the Ten Commandment to Moses
         
        “”And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.”" (John 5:37)
         
         
        Get wisdom! Get understanding! Do not forget, nor turn away from the words of my mouth. (Prov 4:5)

  • Pitbulldog

    The idiot is a nobody.  A KSP.   No one knows him, well except for his personal acquaintances.  Grabbing attention with this method, using people or organizations like the Church is an overused tactic of people who want to bring attention to himself for fame and notoriety. The media and those who give him comfort and support for his wicked cause thru unnecessary publicity are as guilty as well of his trasngressions against the Church and their flock.  I do hope you willl not allow yourselves to be continually used by this man.  Fr. Damaso is a thing of the past.  Let us move on. 

    • tamumd

      NO we cannot move on until these living, modern day DAMASOS learn their proper place in our society. They are not ” a thing of the past”. They are alive and kicking, running the CBCP, ready to come up with more antics to fool the superstitious simple-minded Juan de la Cruz any time.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDGAGWI2XYZQJ3ZNDMZLSPFQ5M Bentong

    If the church continue to criticize the Government which we all know under the constitution the separation of the Church and the Government, then we’ll just let them continue to dictate us with out even letting them know the public clamor. Celdran may have loose his temper but incarcerating him is unchristian. Jesus interpellated and even had arguments with the high priest in his very own Church but they get rid of him. He is not welcome in his country even in his own home.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jane.tan.3367174 Jane Tan

      Actually, that article in the Constitution prevents the government from enacting laws that favor any religion, not so much religion interfering with politics. Though the law that charges Celdran for “offending religious feelings” seems to go against the Separation of Church and State.

  • whyinthisworld

    I know he knows what he is doing, so be it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Since he got the balls to shout inside the Church, he should have balls too to face the court! Otherwise, siya ay isang dakilang duwag!
    Now the court will rule, they blame everything to the Church!
    Kung ayaw mong masuntok, wag maghamon ng laban! Common sense!
    Better mag manicure pedicure ka na lang! 



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